Nerf Molten Core

modnar

You can't have your cake and eat it too, MC is perfectly well tuned where it is, if you're having issues clearing it with every group you play with, odds are there's something wrong with the constant variable.
If MC's nerfed, everyone will be running around with TF etc., it's pointless to try to argue against that. They will.
I've personally 2/3 manned MC in barebones starter gear to farm the TF-relevant bosses, it's not difficult in the least if your groups coordinate.
Learn to play, stop pissing and moaning that content is too difficult, if you're stating the gear in MC is irrelevant, why are you in there in the first place?
Your logic is fallible and holds no water.

Devilsphobia

GM close this thread please, Modnar's comment is all that is actually needed to be said

Danzork

MC is NOT fined tuned where it is since as stated on here it is more difficult than BWL which drops better loot. I personally have no problem with MC, just would rather run better time investment to gear raids like any other raid on the server.
Your argument about too many people with TF doesn't make sense either since the current difficulty to clear BOTH TF bosses is no challenge to the people farming it - the only people suffering from the current structure are new players. If that was really your concern, you could make all the nerf suggestions above then make Garr and Baron very hard.

Ipolylol

()modnar Wrote: You can't have your cake and eat it too, MC is perfectly well tuned where it is, if you're having issues clearing it with every group you play with, odds are there's something wrong with the constant variable.
If MC's nerfed, everyone will be running around with TF etc., it's pointless to try to argue against that. They will.
I've personally 2/3 manned MC in barebones starter gear to farm the TF-relevant bosses, it's not difficult in the least if your groups coordinate.
Learn to play, stop pissing and moaning that content is too difficult, if you're stating the gear in MC is irrelevant, why are you in there in the first place?
Your logic is fallible and holds no water.

enough said after this. no purpose of arguing against these factzz

modnar

()Danzork Wrote: MC is NOT fined tuned where it is since as stated on here it is more difficult than BWL which drops better loot. I personally have no problem with MC, just would rather run better time investment to gear raids like any other raid on the server.
Your argument about too many people with TF doesn't make sense either since the current difficulty to clear BOTH TF bosses is no challenge to the people farming it - the only people suffering from the current structure are new players. If that was really your concern, you could make all the nerf suggestions above then make Garr and Baron very hard.

Once again, MC *IS* fine tuned. Just because BWL/AQ40 aren't, doesn't mean there's an inherent issue with MC.
My argument with TF obviously makes perfect sense if it means brand new players can't go out and get it instantly, you're just bitching to bitch, if you can't clear MC, don't go into it.

Devilsphobia

Danzork, you obviously can't handle MC hence why you whine about it being too hard and you generalize that starters can't clear it because you assume they are as incompetent as you are. However that is not the case, it is simply that because you cannot clear the instance you're here saying it needs a nerf. I've been in many groups where starters clear it and suggesting to remove boss mechanics due to requiring a certain class, then why not suggest C'thun tentacles in the stomach are removed so you can go with only melee, or frost damage is removed from KT so people don't need a specific setup to down KT, or why stop there, just simply ask for the .kill command to be added for you so you don't have to do anything? Seriously, your points aren't valid, so stop crying about something that isn't broken nor needs a nerf.

heinpz

I think nerfing MC would be a good idea. The trash mobs are way too strong, and most starter groups disband on the first trash mobs fight they encounter. Nerf MC, BWL is easier and gives better loot. There's should be some kind of progression in difficulty with the increasement in loot quality. Its the opposite here. Most stater quit the server after they get wrecked in BG by full T3 players and by the MC trash mobs.

Ipolylol

()heinpz Wrote: I think nerfing MC would be a good idea. The trash mobs are way too strong, and most starter groups disband on the first trash mobs fight they encounter. Nerf MC, BWL is easier and gives better loot. There's should be some kind of progression in difficulty with the increasement in loot quality. Its the opposite here. Most stater quit the server after they get wrecked in BG by full T3 players and by the MC trash mobs.

if you nerf mc = garbage loot, and a lot of t3 players with thunderfury. they already burst u d1 idiets out with t3, ur giving em a better a weapon to destroy u more harder.
if u can't clear mc, its either u that is really retarded, or ur grp is. 12 year old game anniversary just passed, learn how to play a easy old game thats been scaled down to make it more easy here.
you should be starting off with aq20, and gold farming, by doing the world quests at that gear.
handicapped plyrs with whEELchairs evryWHERE

Gnawbone

()Ipolylol Wrote:
()heinpz Wrote: I think nerfing MC would be a good idea. The trash mobs are way too strong, and most starter groups disband on the first trash mobs fight they encounter. Nerf MC, BWL is easier and gives better loot. There's should be some kind of progression in difficulty with the increasement in loot quality. Its the opposite here. Most stater quit the server after they get wrecked in BG by full T3 players and by the MC trash mobs.

Sabage
if you nerf mc = garbage loot, and a lot of t3 players with thunderfury. they already burst u d1 idiets out with t3, ur giving em a better a weapon to destroy u more harder.
if u can't clear mc, its either u that is really retarded, or ur grp is. 12 year old game anniversary just passed, learn how to play a easy old game thats been scaled down to make it more easy here.
you should be starting off with aq20, and gold farming, by doing the world quests at that gear.
handicapped plyrs with whEELchairs evryWHERE

Lavz

()Ipolylol Wrote: if u can't clear mc, its either u that is really retarded, or ur grp is. 12 year old game anniversary just passed, learn how to play a easy old game thats been scaled down to make it more easy here.
you should be starting off with aq20, and gold farming, by doing the world quests at that gear.
handicapped plyrs with whEELchairs evryWHERE

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